Duesenberg Les Trem II Chrome TM85C

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Vibrato System for Guitars with a Stop Tailpiece

Mounting on the bushes of the stop tailpiece
No drilling or milling necessary, simply screw into the two existing threaded sleeves
New model with bent lever for optimised handling
Required spacing between bushings: 81.5 mm
Four mounting screws included: Two metric and inch imperial
Finish: Chrome

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Available since July 2013
Item number 319560
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€99

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TG Netherlands 05.06.2020

I love this whammy bar! It works really well.
I installed it on my Gibson SG special.
I do not have de-tuning problems, even if I bring it all the way to the body (though if I do it repeatedly it might detune a bit). I am using 10-46 elixir nanoweb guitar strings, but I have also used ernie ball 09 slinky strings, and did not have any problems. I do use some nut lube though.

It also fits easily into my existing gig bag and hardcase.

However, there are some things to consider with this device.
On my Gibson SG special it does not fit entirely, it was off by 0.5mm, I thought I had measured it properly, but apparently not. To make it fit, I used a file to grind the bolt holes slightly larger, until it fit. Next, the pickguard of the SG is in the way of the plate under the spring, so you need to make a modification, either by cutting the pickguard, or by inserting another pickguard underneath the plate. I opted to make a mini-pickguard that matches the shape of the underplate of the les trem.

One last concern is the bridge height on the SG. If the bridge height is too high (and on the SG it often is, since the neck sweeps backwards behind the body), then it is possible for the strings to touch the bridge as they go down towards the les trem. Therefore, raising the les trem may be necessary. For this the pickguard and the washers help.

Despite the issues I had installing it, I did not need to make modifications to the guitar at all, and I love the sound. 5/5 would buy for all guitars with stoptail.

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Ben Button 09.10.2020

I really wanted to like this but sadly it didn't do it for me and I've since moved it on. I just found it kept making my guitars go out of tune far too fast. I tried it and actually bought it to specifically go on a Gretsch G5222 but I could not get the guitar to saty in tune no matter what I tried including fitting a roller bridge. I watched all the videos checked all the fittings and I had fitted it correctly so in desperation tried it on a Les Paul and still the same issue. It looked the business on both guitars and was a simple fitting process and thankfully dismantling as well thankfully I didn't have to alter the guitar in any way. So I tried it didn't work out for me no worries onwards and upwards to next upgrade. In closing though the product quality was excellent as were Thomann's delivery service to UK (still faster from Germany than many companies from here in the UK).

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Nice

corsair 02.11.2020

I have been on the fence about installing one of these for a long time and I finally pulled the trigger. It works as advertised, it installs in minutes and keeps the tuning very well so far. I have a regular TOM bridge and not one with roller saddles and I have no tuning issues whatsoever. I was afraid it would block the access to the volume/tone knobs, which I use a lot when playing. Luckily it has not been been a deal breaker. Obviously it adds an obstacle in the way (the spring assembly part is in the exact line of sight of the neck volume knob) but it's mostly blocking the view of the potentiometer and not so much the access to it. For me personally, it was worth it.
The only criticism I have regards the instructions. Setting it up is a multistep procedure. Once the installation is over you are instructed to insert the arm and tighten it but what they don't say is that you have to tighten it A LOT. If not, what will happen (as it happened to me) is that the arm will rotate inside the hole and leave your tremolo arm with some deep scratches/dents from the screws that hold it in place. I wish they would have said that - now I am left with a tremolo arm that is visibly dented :(

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So easy

Jack! 07.07.2020

I purchased tremolo with the ABM Roller bridge, to fit on my Tokai SG215. Both fitted with no major surgery, just remove the strings and drop in the tremolo using the washers and screws provided. It only takes a few minutes to fit the tremolo.

After a day of playing the guitar for 3-4 hours total, it seems to stay in tune very well, which is surprising considering its simplicity (btw, I do not dive-bomb). I'm scared of restring my guitar with a Floyd Rose, but not so with the Duesenberg. What a great unit. Highly recommend it to anyone - but make sure your guitar will fit the trem, as I've read some people had to do some surgery.

Also, the package was ordered online on late Thursday, and the units arrived in TOKYO on the following Monday at noon.
Amazing, Thomann!

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